Told Ya: When the definition of marriage is redefined arbitrarily..
Sep 1, 2014 08:14:11 #
Then anyone's definition of what a marriage is...is acceptable.
Yesterday it was "homosexual-marriage"
Today it's "Plural-marriage"
Tomorrow the newest thrust is "youth attracted-marriage" aka pedophilia.
Note the reason for the ruling:
So the arbitrary reason "as long as they are consenting adults" is today's reason.
http://christiannews.net/2014/08/29/judge-issues-final-order-declaring-utahs-ban-on-polygamous-cohabitation-unconstitutional/
Yesterday it was "homosexual-marriage"
Today it's "Plural-marriage"
Tomorrow the newest thrust is "youth attracted-marriage" aka pedophilia.
Note the reason for the ruling:
Quote:
Homosexuals and polygamists do have a common interest: the right to be left alone as consenting adults, he told reporters. There is no spectrum of private consensual relationsthere is just a right of privacy that protects all people so long as they do not harm others.
So the arbitrary reason "as long as they are consenting adults" is today's reason.
http://christiannews.net/2014/08/29/judge-issues-final-order-declaring-utahs-ban-on-polygamous-cohabitation-unconstitutional/
Sep 1, 2014 08:22:16 #
TimS
Loc: GA
Well, pedophilia hardly involves consenting adults amongst all parties.
My stance is that if two or more people can enter into a legally binding contract then they should be allowed to marry. It's really nobody else's business.
My stance is that if two or more people can enter into a legally binding contract then they should be allowed to marry. It's really nobody else's business.
Sep 1, 2014 08:43:53 #
This post is absurd. No one is seriously discussing plural marriage (and how would you be harmed if they were, or if it became legal, RPavich?). And not a single person of any authority or power is discussing the legalization or normalization of pedophilia.
This is the kind of nonsense the religious right is forced to talk about: fringe topics that no one takes seriously. That invisible man is getting more and more invisible.
This is the kind of nonsense the religious right is forced to talk about: fringe topics that no one takes seriously. That invisible man is getting more and more invisible.
Sep 1, 2014 08:47:13 #
TimS wrote:
Well, pedophilia hardly involves consenting adults amongst all parties.
My stance is that if two or more people can enter into a legally binding contract then they should be allowed to marry. It's really nobody else's business.
My stance is that if two or more people can enter into a legally binding contract then they should be allowed to marry. It's really nobody else's business.
What consenting adults do in their own bedrooms is their own business. Marriage, however, is a public event, sanctioned by government with established rules, rights and responsibilities. Just as one example, the health care costs fro a family plan presume a male and female with any children that union might produce. What happens to the "family plan' rate when there are multiple adults? Are two adult headed families going to subsidize the four adult families? Is there a limit? 100 adults in a communal marriage?
Sep 1, 2014 10:18:19 #
When you boil it down, marriage is nothing more than a civil contract. Always was and always will be.
So, if that's the case, and I maintain it is; then consenting adults entering into a multi-person contract is truly no business of government or religion, and although Jerry makes a point about health insurance, I'm sure the Insurance companies will solve that and still make a profit.
So, if that's the case, and I maintain it is; then consenting adults entering into a multi-person contract is truly no business of government or religion, and although Jerry makes a point about health insurance, I'm sure the Insurance companies will solve that and still make a profit.
Sep 1, 2014 10:35:02 #
Frank T wrote:
When you boil it down, marriage is nothing more than a civil contract. Always was and always will be.
So, if that's the case, and I maintain it is; then consenting adults entering into a multi-person contract is truly no business of government or religion, and although Jerry makes a point about health insurance, I'm sure the Insurance companies will solve that and still make a profit.
So, if that's the case, and I maintain it is; then consenting adults entering into a multi-person contract is truly no business of government or religion, and although Jerry makes a point about health insurance, I'm sure the Insurance companies will solve that and still make a profit.
But, you will find that the courts will find a way of sticking the added cost to all of the folks with regular marriages. As for a civil contract, I agree with that. Gay marriages should be called Civil Unions because marriage has a definition that has been defined and refined over centuries of practice. No one really knows what gay marriages are so they are left for the definition to be defined by the courts over time. Civil Unions, on the other hand, can be precisely defined thus protecting all parties involved.
Sep 1, 2014 10:35:37 #
Pavich, did you read your link? Its not about marriage at all. Its about cohabitation.
Sep 1, 2014 10:38:42 #
Shouldn't Bible believers embrace plural marriage? It's all over the Bible.
Sep 1, 2014 12:05:58 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Shouldn't Bible believers embrace plural marriage? It's all over the Bible.
It is, however, it was never represented as the ideal. In the New Testament, Christians didn't forbid it but they did require their leaders to be the husband of one wife. Furthermore, the relationship of Christ to the church is compared to a monogamous marriage and wherever Christianity became culturally dominant polygamy died off. When it comes down to it monogamy protects the woman more than the man.
Sep 1, 2014 12:07:12 #
Sep 1, 2014 12:18:16 #
mwalsh wrote:
The link in the OP is not about marriage ...
The are inextricably tied together. The polygamous cohabitation presented in the article are seen by the participants as marriages and would be made so if the law allowed.
Sep 1, 2014 13:44:11 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Shouldn't Bible believers embrace plural marriage? It's all over the Bible.
Obviously, fidelity of marriage is lost on you. No reason to reply; your lost.
Sep 2, 2014 10:37:54 #
Gnslngr wrote:
This post is absurd. No one is seriously discussing plural marriage (and how would you be harmed if they were, or if it became legal, RPavich?). And not a single person of any authority or power is discussing the legalization or normalization of pedophilia.
This is the kind of nonsense the religious right is forced to talk about: fringe topics that no one takes seriously. That invisible man is getting more and more invisible.
This is the kind of nonsense the religious right is forced to talk about: fringe topics that no one takes seriously. That invisible man is getting more and more invisible.
Because marriage is scientifically based on one man and one woman to create a family.Anything else is an abomination.
Sep 2, 2014 10:45:18 #
yhtomit wrote:
Because marriage is scientifically based on one man and one woman to create a family.Anything else is an abomination.
Marriage is a state sanctioned legal contract regarding inheritance law, property rights, insurance issues, etc.
According to your scientific definition, I guess elderly couples marrying are an abomination - they can't make babies. Younger couples with medical conditions precluding pregnancy getting married would be an abomination ...
How long should any couple getting married be allowed before they fail to produce a baby ...nine months, a year, two years?
If they fail, should their marriage be annulled?
Sep 2, 2014 10:49:04 #
mwalsh wrote:
Marriage is a state sanctioned legal contract rega... (show quote)
Silly fellow. You are trying to use logic and common sense with people who stretch their make-believe to hide their bigotry.
If they understood logic and common sense, they would embrace equality. Unfortunately your plain truth will be ignored and scorned by these fearful old men.
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