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Jul 13, 2016 14:54:05   #
Floyd2 Loc: Littletown WI
 
Interested in upgrading to a Nikon 7200. Been cruising various sites and found used so called "like new" 7200's in the $800 to $900 range on Amazon with low 100's shutter release count. Is it worth the purchase assuming there is no warranty that comes with the camera? What say you out there?

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Jul 13, 2016 15:08:26   #
Kuzano
 
Shutter count is an averaging or "mean" system of forecasting failure. It has nothing to do with the reliability of a given camera. I've had two Fujifilm camera's .... A fujifilm film 645 mf camera, and a Fujifilm S5Pro, both deliver in the neighborhood of 250,000 shutter count. I've had a Nikon and a Canon Full Frame crap their shutters below 100,000. That says nothing however, about the quality of the camera's mfrs. It does say something about those individual camera's. They broke, or they didn't.

Naturally, if I buy a camera with 100,000 shutter count, I expect to pay less. However, I don't expect the camera to break sooner.

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Jul 13, 2016 15:22:01   #
BebuLamar
 
If the shutter count is in the low 100's then it's consider like new as far as shutter count is concerned. Other things may not be like warranty and cosmetic. It's quite possible to have an unused camera malfunction.

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Jul 13, 2016 15:42:28   #
Floyd2 Loc: Littletown WI
 
Appreciate your comments Kuz & Bebu. Just trying to get a feel as to whether I should pull the trigger on a "used" camera or wait for new in a few months.

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Jul 13, 2016 16:32:18   #
tinplater Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
Kuzano wrote:

Naturally, if I buy a camera with 100,000 shutter count, I expect to pay less. However, I don't expect the camera to break sooner.


Respectfully disagree...if I had a car with 100,000 miles on it and one with 10,000 I feel the "probability" of a failure is greater with the more mature automobile. I have purchased many used cameras and always try for the lowest shutter count possible, I feel it is consistent with less use.

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Jul 13, 2016 18:06:58   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Floyd2 wrote:
Interested in upgrading to a Nikon 7200. Been cruising various sites and found used so called "like new" 7200's in the $800 to $900 range on Amazon with low 100's shutter release count. Is it worth the purchase assuming there is no warranty that comes with the camera? What say you out there?


Can't speak to other condition issues, but how many pictures do you take in the average week / month /year? A camera like this should be good for 100,000 actuations or more.
If you do 10,000 a year, that's 10 years. Anything with less than 10,000 should be fine if everything else is in good condition.

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Jul 13, 2016 19:05:09   #
Jim Bob
 
Floyd2 wrote:
Interested in upgrading to a Nikon 7200. Been cruising various sites and found used so called "like new" 7200's in the $800 to $900 range on Amazon with low 100's shutter release count. Is it worth the purchase assuming there is no warranty that comes with the camera? What say you out there?


As one who has more than one refurbished D7200 which function flawlessly, I say if you are willing to spend $900, why not put $200 more with it and buy new. I paid $769 for mine. But that deal is long gone.

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Jul 14, 2016 06:44:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Floyd2 wrote:
Interested in upgrading to a Nikon 7200. Been cruising various sites and found used so called "like new" 7200's in the $800 to $900 range on Amazon with low 100's shutter release count. Is it worth the purchase assuming there is no warranty that comes with the camera? What say you out there?


Aside from recalls, which would cover any camera, I haven't needed a camera repair in over fifty years of shooting - not the same camera, of course.

You can get a refurbished D7200 from Cameta Camera with a 90-day warranty for about that price.

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Jul 14, 2016 07:09:22   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
Costco has a D7200 package with 2 lens for $1039

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Jul 14, 2016 07:27:12   #
Jim Bob
 
queencitysanta wrote:
Costco has a D7200 package with 2 lens for $1039


That's a great deal even without knowing what lenses are included.

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Jul 14, 2016 08:57:41   #
The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida
 
Its surprising that some of the better known retailers (adorama, B&H, KEH) aren't in a position to tell you what the shutter count is on a used unit. They let you know what general condition its in (i.e. ex+, ex, avg, etc.), but not the shutter/activation count. You have to assume that one with a count of 100 is in better overall condition then one with 75,000.

And yet some reputable retailers like Roberts and Allens disclose that up front. Its understood that you generally have 2-4weeks to return if you want to, but who wants to go through the process.

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Jul 14, 2016 09:11:46   #
BebuLamar
 
Well if one has 100,000 and the other is 100 then very highly likely that the one with 100,000 actuations will fail first. However, comparing one with 0 actuation and one with 100 actuations there is no way to predict which one will fail first.

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Jul 14, 2016 09:18:12   #
The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Well if one has 100,000 and the other is 100 then very highly likely that the one with 100,000 actuations will fail first. However, comparing one with 0 actuation and one with 100 actuations there is no way to predict which one will fail first.


My comment was aimed at the info that retailers are in a position to provide or not (i.e. the shutter count) rather then at what point the shutter might fail. Wouldn't you like to know what the count is before you purchase rather then be surprised upon receipt?

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Jul 14, 2016 09:27:53   #
Elsiss Loc: Bayside, NY, Boynton Beach, Fl.
 
Jim Bob wrote:
As one who has more than one refurbished D7200 which function flawlessly, I say if you are willing to spend $900, why not put $200 more with it and buy new. I paid $769 for mine. But that deal is long gone.


I agree 100%. If one is ready to plop down 900 bucks on a used camera with zero warrantee, it makes more sense to go for a new one for a couple hundred bucks more or a refurb with very low shutter clicks that comes with a warranty.

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Jul 14, 2016 09:32:06   #
Rob Almeda Loc: Gaithersburg, Maryland
 
I agree with Santa, buy at costco and you can return it if you are not satisfied.
queencitysanta wrote:
Costco has a D7200 package with 2 lens for $1039

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