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Sep 14, 2022 11:12:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of computers, it was "Turbo" and "Enhanced." Now, it's "AI." Add those letters to the name of software, and we're supposed to think it's better. I doubt that I'm buying an intelligent program for $50. It's just software - just like we've had for the past forty years. Obviously, there is no government regulation about using the term "AI."

Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary.

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Sep 14, 2022 11:26:19   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
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Sep 14, 2022 11:36:29   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of computers, it was "Turbo" and "Enhanced." Now, it's "AI." Add those letters to the name of software, and we're supposed to think it's better. I doubt that I'm buying an intelligent program for $50. It's just software - just like we've had for the past forty years. Obviously, there is no government regulation about using the term "AI."

Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary.
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of compu... (show quote)


Jerry, "Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary." But it does. Say "Alexa" or "Siri" or "HAL"!

I too am pretty happy with my "dumb" software. But even the oldest is not necessarily inexpensive. I remember when Adobe Photoshop was $900 and more! Long before even the CS versions of Ps.

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Sep 14, 2022 12:51:02   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
What scares me jerry is when 'Alexa' suddenly, without a prompt starts talking!

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Sep 14, 2022 13:16:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Doddy wrote:
What scares me jerry is when 'Alexa' suddenly, without a prompt starts talking!


Yeah, that's gotta be strange.

My turned-off printer will occasionally make some noise. That's bad enough.

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Sep 14, 2022 13:22:46   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of computers, it was "Turbo" and "Enhanced." Now, it's "AI." Add those letters to the name of software, and we're supposed to think it's better. I doubt that I'm buying an intelligent program for $50. It's just software - just like we've had for the past forty years. Obviously, there is no government regulation about using the term "AI."

Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary.
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of compu... (show quote)


One of my classmates at Carnegie Tech in the early to mid 50's was Edward Feigenbaum who was one of the pioneers of artificial intelligence. He was frighteningly bright but also very kind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Feigenbaum

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Sep 14, 2022 13:32:03   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
My son likes to scare people when he gets all of his "Alexas" talking to each other.

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Sep 15, 2022 05:26:44   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of computers, it was "Turbo" and "Enhanced." Now, it's "AI." Add those letters to the name of software, and we're supposed to think it's better. I doubt that I'm buying an intelligent program for $50. It's just software - just like we've had for the past forty years. Obviously, there is no government regulation about using the term "AI."

Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary.
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of compu... (show quote)


AI software is developed using algorithms that can learn by example. Much more powerful than straight coding.

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Sep 15, 2022 08:17:17   #
Stephan G
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Jerry, "Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary." But it does. Say "Alexa" or "Siri" or "HAL"!

I too am pretty happy with my "dumb" software. But even the oldest is not necessarily inexpensive. I remember when Adobe Photoshop was $900 and more! Long before even the CS versions of Ps.


I remember when Coke put out the speaking Drink Dispenser Machines. The proximity sensor would activate the program to speak to the person approaching the machine.

At the Atlanta, Ga. test location, the sales took a dive compared to the non-speaking machines.

For me, when I approach a machine, I already have an idea of what I want and I don't have the time to have a conversation with it.

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Sep 15, 2022 08:43:08   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yeah, that's gotta be strange.

My turned-off printer will occasionally make some noise. That's bad enough.


I think printers occasionally go into a short cleaning cycle.

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Sep 15, 2022 08:45:45   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Horseart wrote:
My son likes to scare people when he gets all of his "Alexas" talking to each other.


When I take a long drive, I use my radar detector and WAZE. Sometimes it sounds like they’re talking to each other. Drives passengers crazy.

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Sep 15, 2022 11:45:38   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
kymarto wrote:
AI software is developed using algorithms that can learn by example. Much more powerful than straight coding.

That is true of 'real' AI products but most so called AI software is actually very dumb!

bwa

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Sep 15, 2022 12:30:54   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of computers, it was "Turbo" and "Enhanced." Now, it's "AI." Add those letters to the name of software, and we're supposed to think it's better. I doubt that I'm buying an intelligent program for $50. It's just software - just like we've had for the past forty years. Obviously, there is no government regulation about using the term "AI."

Now, if the software spoke to me - text or speech - and made comments about what I was doing, that would be different - and scary.
Buzzwords come and go. In the early days of compu... (show quote)


I don't want software to talk to me -- why listen to another source that will tell us how dumb we are and what we are doing is really stupid. I'm sure most of us can find family members to do that!

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Sep 15, 2022 13:08:13   #
Stephan G
 
Bridges wrote:
I don't want software to talk to me -- why listen to another source that will tell us how dumb we are and what we are doing is really stupid. I'm sure most of us can find family members to do that!


I ran my irksome family members off using burning sweet grass.

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Sep 15, 2022 13:47:01   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
kymarto wrote:
AI software is developed using algorithms that can learn by example. Much more powerful than straight coding.



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