Why aren't YOU in Church? Me: I'm an Atheist. You don't have to be here arguing with political nerds.

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

Me: I'm an Atheist.

You don't have to be here arguing with political nerds.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

Me: I'm an Atheist.

You don't have to be here arguing with political nerds.

Atheism is an irrational position to hold.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

Racmanaz wrote:

Atheism is an irrational position to hold.

Then how about Agnostic?

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

Atheism is an irrational position to hold.

Of course, you would say that.
It's much more rational to believe that there's an invisible man that lives in the sky and watches you, every minute of every day.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Of course, you would say that.
It's much more rational to believe that there's an invisible man that lives in the sky and watches you, every minute of every day.

Yes, it's more rational to "believe" in an Entity than to make a definite claim that one does not exists. Atheism is a fools game. Now to answer Krakens question, yes in my opinion, holding the Agnostic position is rational. Saying that there is no God is just as irrational as to say that there is definitely a God, even is one or the other holds true.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Racmanaz wrote:

Yes, it's more rational to "believe" in an Entity than to make a definite claim that one does not exists. Atheism is a fools game. Now to answer Krakens question, yes in my opinion, holding the Agnostic position is rational. Saying that there is no God is just as irrational as to say that there is definitely a God, even is one or the other holds true.

Why is Atheism a fools game any more than "believing" the fictional writings of Moses and the Christian's god.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Harvey wrote:

Why is Atheism a fools game any more than "believing" the fictional writings of Moses and the Christian's god.

Because making faith statement is not the same as making a definitive claim that there is no God as the Atheists claim. One requires proof whereas a faith claim does not. Hence “Atheism is a fools game”.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Racmanaz wrote:

Because making faith statement is not the same as making a definitive claim that there is no God as the Atheists claim. One requires proof whereas a faith claim does not. Hence “Atheism is a fools game”.

"BUT" as I have been told by many ministers and Bible study leaders one must blindly believe there is a GOD of the Bible and as I do have a reasonable amount of intelligence I can tell the difference between t***h and a "snow job"
therefore I choose to be an Atheist - but by far not the fool you

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Racmanaz wrote:

Because making faith statement is not the same as making a definitive claim that there is no God as the Atheists claim. One requires proof whereas a faith claim does not. Hence “Atheism is a fools game”.

... yeah but what about evolution s**ms? What do the big preachers say?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Harvey wrote:

"BUT" as I have been told by many ministers and Bible study leaders one must blindly believe there is a GOD of the Bible and as I do have a reasonable amount of intelligence I can tell the difference between t***h and a "snow job"
therefore I choose to be an Atheist - but by far not the fool you

Did you not read what I said? You seem to be deflecting from what I actually said.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Texcaster wrote:

... yeah but what about evolution s**ms? What do the big preachers say?

I don't know - I don't listen to them anymore. Now with The Trump selling his "Babble" I can see one more time the reason for the Big Preachers selling Christianity - "MONEY"

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Racmanaz wrote:

Did you not read what I said? You seem to be deflecting from what J actually said.

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jcboy3

Racmanaz wrote:

Yes, it's more rational to "believe" in an Entity than to make a definite claim that one does not exists. Atheism is a fools game. Now to answer Krakens question, yes in my opinion, holding the Agnostic position is rational. Saying that there is no God is just as irrational as to say that there is definitely a God, even is one or the other holds true.

"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.

Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.

Older dictionaries define atheism as “a belief that there is no God.” Clearly, theistic influence taints these definitions. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as “there is no God” betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read “there are no gods.”"

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

jcboy3 wrote:

"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in go... (show quote)

Atheism is a declaration they there is no God, That is what makes atheism and irrational position to hold which is a quagmire for fools.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

jcboy3 wrote:

"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in go... (show quote)

Yep - I don't believe there are "ANY" gods -all threw history many cultures have talked of and worshipped many Gods - that was great for them. Then along came the Jewish God and then the Christian God that claims to be the only God - who is to say that someday in the future a New God will come into this world from outof the univers your God has supposedly created.