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Feb 19, 2016 18:08:58   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Well, to be fair, while I wasn't entirely clear on the instructions, I did get if figured out, which I wouldn't have been able to without them. True, they were contained in a couple different posts, but they were there. And I do appreciate the help. While I am not particularly IT proficient, I'm not entirely without knowledge. Most of what I know is limited to simply using the computer for what I need to do, and when it gets beyond me, I look for assistance from those in the know. And in the process, I increase my knowledge. Yes, you can teach an old dog new tricks--it just takes that old dog a little longer for it to sink in.
Well, to be fair, while I wasn't entirely clear on... (show quote)

Nothing wrong with that. I have an 80 year old father in law living in another country. A few years ago I bought him a computer and taught him to use Skype, saving me more than the computer cost in phone calls. He has become quite good at it for other things too.

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Feb 19, 2016 18:24:56   #
2daysoldrndirt Loc: Palestine, Texas
 
I started with computers back in 1968, in Irvine, CA, working for a company called Varian Data Machines. Programming on punch cards, memory was hand wired with ferite beads, main frames the size of double door freezers. We have come a long way in almost 50 years. I don't even try to keep up with more than the basics now, way past my learning curve at this point.
I hope and pray you have solved your problem at this point.

It pains me to see how much Ill temper and cross words have come to the forefront on this forum over the past 5 years. Something else we must learn to tolerate during our latter years. Have a great weekend.

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Feb 19, 2016 18:49:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
2daysoldrndirt wrote:
I started with computers back in 1968, in Irvine, CA, working for a company called Varian Data Machines. Programming on punch cards, memory was hand wired with ferite beads, main frames the size of double door freezers. We have come a long way in almost 50 years. I don't even try to keep up with more than the basics now, way past my learning curve at this point.
I hope and pray you have solved your problem at this point.

It pains me to see how much Ill temper and cross words have come to the forefront on this forum over the past 5 years. Something else we must learn to tolerate during our latter years. Have a great weekend.
I started with computers back in 1968, in Irvine, ... (show quote)


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Feb 19, 2016 20:51:12   #
lukevaliant Loc: gloucester city,n. j.
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Is there any difference between an external hard drive that I can plug into my MacBook Pro and what is labeled a back up drive? The reason I ask is that when I try to copy my photo files over to the backup unit, either it doesn't want to transfer them, or it completely scrambles the order of the photos so I almost can't find anything, and the thumbnails are so small they're very hard to see. Any suggestions?


put all yor photos on a thumb drive 1st then on cd's . if there is a problem you have them on them. then you can go to any drug store & get copies. keep it simple

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Feb 19, 2016 20:55:55   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
lukevaliant wrote:
put all yor photos on a thumb drive 1st then on cd's . if there is a problem you have them on them. then you can go to any drug store & get copies. keep it simple


That's alternate plan "B."

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Feb 19, 2016 21:02:22   #
lukevaliant Loc: gloucester city,n. j.
 
Wingpilot wrote:
That's alternate plan "B."


make it plan a then it can't fail

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Feb 19, 2016 21:21:06   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
lukevaliant wrote:
make it plan a then it can't fail


Always have a backup plan.

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Feb 19, 2016 21:28:55   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Always have a backup plan.


That's Plan 9 from Outer Space....., or the OS from Bell Labs.

Think I still have a mouse mat somewhere....



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Feb 20, 2016 04:10:45   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
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A "back-up" drive is a regular drive that runs software to perform the back-up. I have a 1Tb WD passport (USB) drive that I use as a back-up, but I do not run the backup software that is on it, I manually copy (transfer). I also use it to transfer MANY files from the desk-top to the laptop (or vice-versa) as encrypted WiFi is SO much slower. Back-up software probably compresses the information, thus giving the illusion that the drive is formatted differently. (Files backed up with the old Windows backup program were not usable as regular files because of storage method.) The Passport is a regular drive that I can create directories (folders) on like any other drive.
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Yes, sounds correct. I use four 2TB WD My Passport Ultra external drives for archiving or backing-up my Photos and music files, in duplicate. I do it manually too. Deleted all the provided bloat-ware. I just bought two more such drives that I may use for creating safety/restore system images of my two computers. I did a bit of hunting and obtained six differently colored drives for color coding!

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Feb 20, 2016 07:27:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Yes, sounds correct. I use four 2TB WD My Passport Ultra external drives for archiving or backing-up my Photos and music files, in duplicate. I do it manually too. Deleted all the provided bloat-ware. I just bought two more such drives that I may use for creating safety/restore system images of my two computers. I did a bit of hunting and obtained six differently colored drives for color coding!


I like the idea of the color coding. :-)

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Feb 20, 2016 07:29:54   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
Longshadow wrote:
I like the idea of the color coding. :-)

I hate the idea of swapping a bunch of drives around. This is for people with a ton of time on their hands. Manually keeping track of what drive was backed up when is a nightmare.

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Feb 20, 2016 07:49:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Capture48 wrote:
I hate the idea of swapping a bunch of drives around. This is for people with a ton of time on their hands. Manually keeping track of what drive was backed up when is a nightmare.


Whatever works for you. Obviously it works for him. :)

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Feb 20, 2016 08:01:27   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
Longshadow wrote:
Whatever works for you. Obviously it works for him. :)

Agreed, everyone is different. For me I found if BU was not automatic, I would run behind. In the past I used a safe deposit box and rotate three drives in and out. But many times something would come up and I would miss a rotation. Usually because I had a job and worked past the time the banks were open, or just had too mush PP work to do and did not get to the bank vault. In any case this put my data at risk. I had to come up with a automated way to do this that did not require my intervention. I was very glad to see cloud BU solutions.

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Feb 20, 2016 08:05:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Capture48 wrote:
Agreed, everyone is different. For me I found if BU was not automatic, I would run behind. In the past I used a safe deposit box and rotate three drives in and out. But many times something would come up and I would miss a rotation. Usually because I had a job and worked past the time the banks were open, or just had too mush PP work to do and did not get to the bank vault. In any case this put my data at risk. I had to come up with a automated way to do this that did not require my intervention. I was very glad to see cloud BU solutions.
Agreed, everyone is different. For me I found if ... (show quote)


:thumbup: Yup - Connected external, portable external, & Carbonite. Works for me.

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Feb 20, 2016 11:36:35   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
I like the idea of the color coding. :-)


And it was not easy to find 6 colors of Drives, I had to buy them from different sources. Over a two year or so time period I bought WD My Passport Ultra 2TB drives from retail store and on line at different times. Black, Titanium (Gray), Red, Blue, Purple, and Silver Metallic. I believe they also come in White and Maroon.

I did more or less the same thing for my USB Thumb Drives; bought from many sources to eventually get 12 different color designs for 12 SanDisk Cruzer Glide drives (8 & 16 GB)! Everyone has black, but finding lime green was a challenge!

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