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Dec 14, 2013 11:46:28   #
Good thing about today's microstock: Upload once, and your work is done; forget the image and (maybe) get multiple sales.
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Dec 6, 2013 13:15:56   #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Large or small, the time needed to go through the run up is mere minutes - much shorter than the time spent idling and taxiing in a typical class B and C airport.


Jet engines don't require a "run up."
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Dec 2, 2013 12:42:21   #
BobT wrote:
I'd like to attempt to make a nice photo book. Must be able to have pictures on both sides of each page. And MUST be easy to put together. My techno abilities are very limited. No, you don't understand. VERY limited. So what sources do you recommend for a book-newbie; where I can get a good product relatively easily. Thanks.


Excellent results with Blurb:

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Nov 25, 2013 23:44:55   #
Read the definitions of the words "privilege" and "right" in your dictionary (if you have one). Then read the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We have the RIGHT to speak, write and publish what we want (including photographs). If your photography is published "around the world," perhaps you could send us a link to some of that work.


http://www.corbisimages.com/photographer/richard-michael-knittle-sr-


kiddrich wrote:
http://www.corbisimages.com/photographer/richard-michael-knittle-sr-


If you are indeed the Richard Michael Knittle Sr. of Texas who photographs (without permission) people in the street and is represented by Corbis, then you have an extremely perverted view of your RIGHTS and responsibilities as a journalist. I suggest you go to your local college for a class in Constitutional Law or perhaps just Introduction to Journalism.
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Nov 25, 2013 20:56:17   #
kiddrich wrote:
The First Amendment does not reach photography as a right you are entitled to.....sorry.................


Believe what you want. Just don't try to interfere with my RIGHTS.
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Nov 25, 2013 20:54:26   #
kiddrich wrote:
You are right sir, we do NOT have any special rights, what we have is the privilege to take photos. There is no RIGHT to take photos for news purposes or any other purpose and we follow proper protocol in doing so. The thousands of daily, weekly and monthly publications you make reference to use my photos all the time for publication around the world. You like many others here are badly misinformed.


Read the definitions of the words "privilege" and "right" in your dictionary (if you have one). Then read the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We have the RIGHT to speak, write and publish what we want (including photographs). If your photography is published "around the world," perhaps you could send us a link to some of that work.
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Nov 25, 2013 19:00:50   #
birdseyeview wrote:
Thanks Jim
I think you are one of the few that actually get the question I was asking and why.
If you have never spent the hours and walked the miles to get the shots then spent the time to do the framing I don't think you can grasp the feelings! This is MY WORK thank you kindly....


Right! I too do shows, and I agree with Jim. Best answer to the original question.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:47:09   #
kiddrich wrote:
This really has grown into a maze of misinformation and false beliefs.....while you have a right to take photos IN public you have NO right to take photos OF the public.....that includes houses, buildings, or anything else you PLACE in the photo.....you as a photographer, whatever your reason, gives you NO rights at all...........there are exceptions but it appears no one responding to this thread qualify under current law.............


I must assume you have never seen a newspaper or magazine and probably don't read (at least not the U.S. Constitution). Or if you have looked at a picture or two in one of the thousands of daily, weekly or monthly publications, how do you suppose those publications got away with taking pictures of buildings and people? I can assure you that neither their photographers nor their publishers have any special rights different from those afforded to all; nor do these publications obtain releases for their subjects.

It's a free country with a free press, and anyone can be a publisher--even you. How ridiculous--"while you have a right to take photos IN public you have NO right to take photos OF the public ." You must be shooting blanks.
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Nov 25, 2013 10:55:26   #
birdseyeview wrote:
My brother and I were at a show this weekend selling out photos. We had several in frames hanging in our display
when a well to do woman and her mother walk up to look and the woman takes out her cell phone and takes shots of three photos! When we asked her if we could help she says Oh I just like the frames I think they are lovely....
Then she walks away without the decency to even ask for out business card or our names! the shots were full pic and frame. Do any of you think this is theft or just an attempt
to steal my ideas on my frames so she can have some one else make the frames for her? Personally I did not like what she did. Am I wrong or should I have confronted her about it? Thanks for your thoughts
My brother and I were at a show this weekend selli... (show quote)


I have no idea what people do with the many images they capture with their cell phones, and I don't really care. I display my work at art shows, and often encounter those who wish to photograph my photographs. Some ask and some don't. Never has bothered me. They'll not capture the quality of the original, so I don't consider it "stealing." Other artists, however, have told me they object to photography because they want to protect their ideas. Some validity there, particularly in the craft categories.
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Nov 24, 2013 10:49:49   #
Rbrylawski wrote:
Don't PJ's need a signed release if a subject is photographed who could be recognized?

This link may help you: http://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~rcollins/242photojournalism/Principles.html


No. Never done.
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Nov 20, 2013 19:39:47   #
SharpShooter wrote:
B, most of us know the basics of how releases apply to both editorial and commercial. And none of use are intellectual property lawyers, so we do the best we can with the information we have available to us or have been taught. Since we are not lawyers we apply that information to the best of our judgements.
In light of that, you and Annie where saying the exact same thing with irrelevant origins.
After 50 years of OTJT, one would have expected that you would have developed a better bedside manner.
You directed some pretty harsh language at an individual That was saying the same exact thing as yourself, that you then tried to water down.
Unfortunately, anybody with a brain any larger than a walnut could read right between those very harsh, but transparent lines.
Annie rightfully demanded an apology that you should immediately give, since you were no more right/wrong than she was. I would think that after 50 years those are skills you should have perfected.
The only question that remains, is whether you will man up and do so.
I suggest you apologize. It will help immensely to establish credibility and character.
Happy shooting
SS.
B, most of us know the basics of how releases appl... (show quote)


Here is the exchange that prompted my reply:

Me "It's not illegal to photograph people and sell photos of them without their permission. Done all the time. Check your local newspaper. Those photos of street protesters are not illegal, nor do they carry a model release. As a general rule, if a person is in a public place, you can photograph him or her, post the image, sell the image--just not use it in advertising or promotion without a release."

Annie: "sorry you have some misinformation that is pretty common. newpapers do not require a model release because they are the news. photos used for education and news related items and stories do not need or require a model release. this clause is also the reason that sites like tmz and mags in check out lines don't need model releases for the rich and famous, it saddly is considered news."

Mine was not "misinformation," yet most who posted in this thread were totally off base--just wrong. Annie's post implied that newspapers have some special privilege not available to the general public; further that it is acceptable to photograph the "rich and famous" but not others.

Bottom line: I was responding not only to her post--which seemed a little off--but to others who were totally off. She asked how I acquired my information, and I responded. Doctors may cultivate bedside manners, but journalists are usually blunt.

Thanks for your suggestions, SS.
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Nov 20, 2013 10:47:17   #
Annie_Girl wrote:
Did you even read my post before you called it a "revolting passel of stupidity"? I'm wondering because I said for photos used for editorial purposes (news and textbooks are examples I gave) you typically do NOT need a model release. Yet your post I just quoted, you are supporting my statement.

I'll await my apology. Shaking my head.


Sorry if you feel offended. I was referring to other posts as well as your assertion that I have "some misinformation that is pretty common." It is incorrect to say that newspapers don't need releases "because they are the news." They don't need releases because there is freedom of expression in this country, and anyone can publish (a newspaper or a photo) without permission.
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Nov 19, 2013 23:44:24   #
Annie_Girl wrote:
Before you throw your own comments on to a thread and call someone's information " revolting passel of stupidity" maybe you should do some homework.

I get my information from the PPA.... images used for editorial purposes (news/text boxes,ect) generally do NOT require a release.

Would you care to read more than a few articles that outline and backing up my statement?

Care to supply me with where you gathered your information?


50 years in the news business. Selling stock through 9 agencies. Model releases when needed. Street photography as ART or NEWS does not need permissions or releases, nor does it violate any state or federal laws. Most of those who posted on this thread obviously do not understand these basics.
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Nov 19, 2013 22:45:31   #
Annie_Girl wrote:
sorry you have some misinformation that is pretty common. newpapers do not require a model release because they are the news. photos used for education and news related items and stories do not need or require a model release. this clause is also the reason that sites like tmz and mags in check out lines don't need model releases for the rich and famous, it saddly is considered news.


What a revolting passel of stupidity! News outlets have no special rights. Newspapers have the same constitutional rights that every person in the U.S. has. Do you think you must have a license to publish a newspaper in this country? Rich and famous? You don't need a model release for anyone if it is news. And the sole judge of whether it is news is the publisher. That would be you, Annie_Girl, if you choose to publish a photograph.

What is pretty common, it seems, is the ignorance you and many others have expressed on this topic.
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Nov 19, 2013 20:53:36   #
dtinney wrote:
Blue Spark... I am not a lawyer but my understanding is under the first amendment a photographer has a right to photograph the public on public property (unless they are a minor) It is however illegal to photograph someone and sell photos of them without their permission. Unfortunately most people do not understand this and think that they have a right to take off on photographers who photograph them. I had a very bad experience where I photographed a homeless person outside a court house. He spotted me photographing
him and came running across the street with a wooden staff that he was carrying (by law a weapon) and threatened me, blocked my path and raised his staff and demanded my camera. I gave him a head fake to the left and ran right...right into the courthouse and asked for help. Street photography can be rewarding but risky...Ask anyone who has photographed Alec Baldwin!!
Blue Spark... I am not a lawyer but my understandi... (show quote)


It's not illegal to photograph people and sell photos of them without their permission. Done all the time. Check your local newspaper. Those photos of street protesters are not illegal, nor do they carry a model release. As a general rule, if a person is in a public place, you can photograph him or her, post the image, sell the image--just not use it in advertising or promotion without a release.


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