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May 7, 2024 10:34:00   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Kraken wrote:
I tried grabbing one of those cats and I got slapped.


I think my point is being missed. I am not making a statement claiming either side. I am asking for evidence and facts that corroborate either side. I tend to believe in the no-god side as no one has been able to provide any evidence that this benevolent superpower exists outside of the minds of the believers. Opinion is fine, but it must be kept in its place as opinion until facts transform opinions into truth-based facts.

I would love to believe in either side, all I need is a little facts to back up my justification. I am not trying to convince anyone of either side, I am just providing details that I consider in my belief construction. I am happy to alter/morph my beliefs based on new facts as they arise. Once I pick a side, I will be able to prove my choice as fact, and even when that occurs, some people will not agree with the facts. Just how it goes. Until then, I have nothing to prove.

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May 7, 2024 10:36:24   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Kraken wrote:
I tried grabbing one of those cats and I got slapped.


Are you running for President? 😂

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May 7, 2024 10:46:38   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Robertl594 wrote:
Are you running for President? 😂


No, but I have a Justin Trudeau you can have for free.

He is just about done here.

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May 7, 2024 10:52:39   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Kraken wrote:
No, but I have a Justin Trudeau you can have for free.

He is just about done here.


I was just referencing tRumps instruction about grabbing felines

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May 7, 2024 11:07:00   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I was just referencing tRumps instruction about grabbing felines


tRump? What are you 14 years old?

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May 7, 2024 11:08:50   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Racmanaz wrote:
tRump? What are you 14 years old?


There you go again. You are such a waste of time. You have reached my daily limit of tolerance of you. Until tomorrow. I am now going to the flat earthers site for some more entertainment.

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May 7, 2024 11:18:19   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Robertl594 wrote:
There you go again. You are such a waste of time. You have reached my daily limit of tolerance of you. Until tomorrow. I am now going to the flat earthers site for some more entertainment.


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May 7, 2024 11:34:13   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Racmanaz wrote:
tRump? What are you 14 years old?


Hey Rac, did you hear that Stormy Daniels testified this morning about spanking Fat Donny with a rolled-up magazine?
I wouldn't have figured him out for that particular fetish, but hey, you never know.

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May 7, 2024 11:45:56   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Kraken wrote:
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Very good! But not the kind of alpha that is a good role model. Just a failure, seeking attention the only way he knows how.

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May 7, 2024 12:03:50   #
pendennis
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Then why make a definitive claim if you can not back up that claim with evidence. It's just as irrational to make a definitive claim that there is no God as it is to make the claim that there isn't. To make a claim that there is no God you either have to have evidence of such a claim or you have to have all knowledge that is available in the universe or in existence. So if you make a claim that there is no God then you must put this all knowledge or have such evidence to prove it.


It's not irrational to claim that something does not exist, when there's no evidence to the contrary.

I assert that there are no leprechauns. If you believe there are, you are bound by logic to prove that there are. It's no more complicated than that.

I can assert that there was no creation by a superior being. I don't have to provide prove that there wasn't. You, on the other hand, have to prove that a superior being created everything and ignore the science of evolution.

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May 7, 2024 12:45:46   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Robertl594 wrote:
There you go again. You are such a waste of time. You have reached my daily limit of tolerance of you. Until tomorrow. I am now going to the flat earthers site for some more entertainment.


Oh poor Karen got offended that I confronted your juvenile behavior.

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May 7, 2024 12:48:33   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
pendennis wrote:
It's not irrational to claim that something does not exist, when there's no evidence to the contrary.

I assert that there are no leprechauns. If you believe there are, you are bound by logic to prove that there are. It's no more complicated than that.

I can assert that there was no creation by a superior being. I don't have to provide prove that there wasn't. You, on the other hand, have to prove that a superior being created everything and ignore the science of evolution.


Yes it is irrational to make a definitive claim that something does not exist when you don’t have all the evidence and all the knowledge there is to know in the universe. Now it’s more rational to say you don’t believe there is a God because you don’t see the evidence but the claim that there is no God is irrational. It’s the same way with those who believe in God, If they make The definitive claim that God exists, even If the claim is true, it’s still irrational because they can not know that for certain. It’s more rational to say you believe there is a God or you believe there isn’t a God.

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May 7, 2024 12:53:09   #
srg
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Then why make a definitive claim if you can not back up that claim with evidence. It's just as irrational to make a definitive claim that there is no God as it is to make the claim that there isn't. To make a claim that there is no God you either have to have evidence of such a claim or you have to have all knowledge that is available in the universe or in existence. So if you make a claim that there is no God then you must put this all knowledge or have such evidence to prove it.


We know so much about you raQ. For instance, you work for the entities that wish to destroy our way of life.
And that you are not a lawyer, since you do not understand the meaning of the word "evidence"

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May 7, 2024 13:02:12   #
srg
 
FrumCA wrote:
No. In this faith-based discussion, the way this works is I don't have to prove anything to you, nor do you have to prove anything to me, unless as someone said you can convince me to believe what you believe in. I know the position non-believers have and as I said, I'm not wasting time trying to convince you otherwise. That said, I'd still like to get an answer on what the "proven science" is that pendennis referred to. If this is true, then it shouldn't be too hard to prove. Perhaps you can help him out.
No. In this faith-based discussion, the way this w... (show quote)


I'll make a deal with you.
I will give you any proof you want after you prove that my imaginary childhood friend did not actually exist.
His name was George, and he was really good at all the games that I enjoyed playing.
He gave me comfort, and hope and even love.
OK go.

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May 7, 2024 13:21:33   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
srg wrote:
We know so much about you raQ. For instance, you work for the entities that wish to destroy our way of life.
And that you are not a lawyer, since you do not understand the meaning of the word "evidence"


Lol here we are another conspiracy theorist projecting his conspiracy tendencies on me

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